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The Republican Party hates Americans.

Truefact.

But the GOP reserves a special hatred for both New Americans and Gay Americans.



"The authors of the Fourteenth Amendment guaranteed citizenship to all people "born or naturalized in the United States" for a reason. They wished to directly repudiate the Dred Scott decision, which said that citizenship could be granted or denied by political caprice.

They purposely chose an objective standard of citizenship -- birth -- that was not subject to politics. Reconstruction leaders established a firm, sound principle: To be an American citizen, you don't have to please a majority, you just have to be born here."

So the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides for citizenship by birth on US soil, and the GOP wants to try and repeal the Amendment to stop the "flood" of anchor babies, as they're called. Anchor babies would be a totally cute thing if at the core it weren't so racist an ideology. (Can't you just see little babies in Navy uniforms and fake little anchor tattoos on their adorable chubby arms? *squee*)

Of course it's merely a coincidence that the 14th Amendment also HAPPENS coincidentally to enforce the Due Process and Equal Protection provisions onto the states, by shocking coincidence, but I'm SURE that's not what the GOP is after, surely not!

I noticed this little threat to our liberty because I just happened to have been born in one of the few countries in the world that did not allow birth location citizenship, El Salvador. The country was founded by Sephardic Jews that had been thrown out of Spain by Ferdinand and Isabella, and they wanted to be sure that no one could ever take their country away from them ever again. (Naming your country The Savior was a brilliant stroke, btw, talk about hiding in plain sight! Crypto-Judaism at its finest!) You have to be a THIRD generation Salvadoran to try to get citizenship!

Some other countries?

Kenya, which removed the right in desperation in the late 20th Century because it was literally drowning in refugees who snuck over the border to have babies and stay, Japan, that bastion of xenophobia, the UK (oh dear!) and Germany.

That's right, Germany.

Germany didn't want all of those Turkish immigrants they had imported as laborers to be able to remain and VOTE! Gott im Himmel, nein! (There were third- and fourth-generation Turkish families in Germany, but no citizens!) The European Union ordered them to change the law to conform with every other nation on earth (except El Salvador and Kenya). n.b.: there is a grand total of one Turkish-German elected legislator in Germany. ONE. And he's in a leadership position in his party because, like Barney Frank, he represents an entire demographic by default.

Pat Buchanan, in a virulently racist and homophobic speech to the Republican National Convention in 1998, used the language "We are America, THEY are not."

Molly Ivins quipped that "the speech probably sounded better in the original German."

The GOP hates the Fourteenth Amendment because it lets immigrants become US citizens, and oh, did I mention that those naughty Due Process and Equal Protection clauses are also going to be the Constitutional basis for allowing Gay marriage?

SHOCKING COINCIDENCE!

EDIT: Thank you to those who strengthened my case about racism and birth citizenship!



I'm making a t-shirt that sums up my sentiments about the GOP perfectly, a three-word phrase that makes me laugh and totally makes my point:

"Suck it, Scalia."

Date: 2010-08-06 05:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Changing the 14th will never happen. The GOP would have to get three-fourths of the states behind it. That's 36 states. Even Obama couldn't pull thirty six states. It's pure wind to please the base close to the election.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tonethbone.livejournal.com
I agree..it aint gonna happen. More rhetoric to rile up their base. This is all about Latinos becoming the dominant part of our population in the next 25 years or so...and when that happens Rupublicans are through...or they need to reinvent themselves as a party that supposrts minorities (and gays)

But that is going to happn anyway...The Demographics say that once the above 50 crowd (I am one) drops dead...the youth of our country, who dont really give a shit about denying gays their rights or denying minorities the right to live here...is going to make some major changes to our politics

Date: 2010-08-06 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
We gotta outlive the bastards!

I hear them Rethuglicans eat a lot of red meat and drink a lot of bourbon, so the end must be near!

*giggle*

Date: 2010-08-06 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thetathx1138.livejournal.com
Not even the over-50s...the over 65s are really the ones holding things back. They're the one demographic McCain won.

But, yeah, once Latinos flip Texas, which could be as early as 2016, the GOP is done.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
Of course it is.

But it's DISGUSTING.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pectopah.livejournal.com
Actually there are several other countries that do not automatically confer citizenship to those born there: Japan, for example. India recently changed its law to say that the parents of children born there must be Indian citizens.

The law in Germany since 2000 has been that German citizenship is conferred if at least one of the parents is a legal permanent resident and has lived there for at least 8 years.

It looks like El Salvador has changed its law to birthright citizenship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli

Nevertheless, Scalia can still suck it. We want pics of you in the t-shirt.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
Japan, that righteous bastion of xenophobia! (It kills them that the original Jomon culture in the islands before the Chinese colonization was Caucasian. Viva Ainu!)

Poor El Salvador.

They had to dollarize because remittances from the US formed such a huge part of their economy, and then the US economy crashed.

And now they have to worry that they'll be taken over again.

PS I'm still not eligible for citizenship in El Salvador, sadly.

not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trawnapanda.livejournal.com
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Since 1 January 1983, children born in the United Kingdom only become British Citizens if their parents are British Citizens, or are legally resident in the UK. Visiting people from, say, Australia or Argentina, who have a child have not given birth to a newborn British citizen. Likewise, visitors from an EU country only get a British baby if they are residents of the UK at the time. This isn't a problem usually, because the child will have citizenship in whatever EU country, and thereby entitled to stay in the UK indefinitely (as is equally true for the parents), but parental popping over from Paris for a couple of weeks doesn't count when it comes to citizenship for the baby.

Re: not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
One wonders if the UK has rules like that for the same reasons as Germany did?

Re: not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fingertrouble.livejournal.com
umm not as obviously so, no. Although replace Pakistani or Bangladeshi with Turkish it's not far from the truth.

There was/is concern before that any child born here was a UK citizen so did become a way to gain citizenship, but now the idea families get shipped out automatically and jailed for months is evil. Then again the British invented the Concentration Camp so...

Re: not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
"Although replace Pakistani or Bangladeshi with Turkish it's not far from the truth."

Sadly, that's what I meant. The BNP has a lot more power in the UK than the equivalent here in the US.

Re: not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fingertrouble.livejournal.com
really? There they have guns and militias. I'd be more scared of those. Nick Griffin is just a fool everyone takes the piss out of.

And BNP hardly has any support now, only got the Euro seats cos of PR. BNP support went down this election.

Re: not just three countries

Date: 2010-08-06 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fingertrouble.livejournal.com
not really. In the UK there is two.

Look up how many fascist/far right MPs there are across Europe. In France they have quite a few - LePen's party polls something like 15% of the vote. Here it's 5%.

Then again a lot of their and BNP's policies are similar to the Teabaggers and the Republicans...major parties here are moderate compared to the Republicans - even the Tories.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fingertrouble.livejournal.com
if that starting statement is true, doesn't that mean Log Cabin Republicans are actually a truly revolutionary party? Corrupting those closeted Republicans from the inside? LOL.

I don't actually give them that leeway, but if they aren't deluded and are in fact stirring shit in the most evil way possible, more power to them.

P.S. having visited Spain, inc Granada the whole lie that Christianity throwing out the Moors was a golden age was obviously a complete lie. They burned through millions or billions ripped from South America and were bankrupt in less than a century. Witch hunts and mariscon (sp?) were like the US sign of a far deeper fuck up.

Date: 2010-08-06 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
The Log Cabin Republicans are abused spouses:

"I know he hates me, and I know he hits me, but I love him!"

Date: 2010-08-06 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gldngrrl.livejournal.com
I blame Nancy Reagan for everything. That bitch.

Date: 2010-08-07 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
It's Reagan's fault!

That is my cry!

Date: 2010-08-07 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
HEE!

Great link!

Date: 2010-08-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quetz.livejournal.com
The worst example I can think of is Thailand, where two-thirds of those born there are denied citizenship simply because they're hicks from the country and don't have papers.

Date: 2010-08-06 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zurcherart.livejournal.com
You forgot the Switzerland (do not dare lump us with Germans!)

In practice the Swiss immigration dept/courts in the last 10-20 years have generally granted citizenship to kids who were born here to legally resident parents after they reach their 16th birthday or so if the kids attended school (were indoctrinated) here and apply for the citizenship. But this isn't protected by law and could change at any time thanks to conservatives using the immigration issue as a wedge issue.

The conservative party leading the way on "immigration reform" sent out a flyer last week which said in part Switzerland is MORE lenient than America on immigration and asking "DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE MORE IMMIGRANT FRIENDLY THAN AMERICANS?!?!" I kid not!

Date: 2010-08-07 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wescobear.livejournal.com
Okay, what i don't get is why people in the country illegally are allowed to stay because they have a child. Yes, the child is a US citizen, but s/he can be reared in the native country of the parents and return to the USA when of legal age. Or the child could be reared by relatives here legally or be put up for adoption. There is NO reason to allow the illegal parents to remain in the USA, IMHO.

Date: 2010-08-07 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
I look at it the other way round:

If I were seeking a better life and I wasn't already an American citizen, I would do anything I could to stay here.

So it's hard for me to come down on illegal immigrants because I might well do the same if I were in their shoes!

Date: 2010-08-07 04:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wescobear.livejournal.com
Think about the unintended consequences of what you're saying; people who are biologically able to have a child should get immigration preference?

Date: 2010-08-07 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shirtlifterbear.livejournal.com
I empathize with the masses, yearning to be free.

This is not a bad thing.

Date: 2010-08-07 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goreyboy.livejournal.com
The parents have no rights to stay. The anchor baby argument is a red herring. The child has citizenship but can not sponsor the parents (or anyone else) to immigrate until they are an adult.

Date: 2010-08-07 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardencub.livejournal.com
This country's greatest strength was the constant influx of ambitious and hardworking immigrants - striving for freedom and a chance at a better life. It only became an "real" issue when the middle class started to shrink and the working class saw their skilled labor, union protected jobs going away.

When the American Dream starting to become more and more elusive and "Americans" started finding it tougher and tougher to live the life of conspicous consumption they had been used to, xenophobia started to creep in for real.